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	<description>Taking Pleasure In The Beauty Of Restrained Women</description>
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		By: don1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recall reading of this incident in &#039;Fox&#039;s Book of Martyrs&#039;  She was murdered along with an older woman,  also called Margaret.  both died bravely.
As Jim Elliot [an USA Christian Missionary/martyr in Ecuador] said,  &#039;He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep for something that he cannot lose.&#039;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading of this incident in &#8216;Fox&#8217;s Book of Martyrs&#8217;  She was murdered along with an older woman,  also called Margaret.  both died bravely.<br />
As Jim Elliot [an USA Christian Missionary/martyr in Ecuador] said,  &#8216;He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep for something that he cannot lose.&#8217;</p>
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		By: M.Yu		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice work.  I am linking to it.  I am always on the look out for this type of thing.  
Thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice work.  I am linking to it.  I am always on the look out for this type of thing.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		By: dncarac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;feel&quot; of the piece changes from the under-piece to the finished piece.  In the finished piece, she&#039;s looking demurly downward and her mouth is more relaxed.  In the under-piece, she&#039;s looking to the right - toward her accusers, maybe?? toward the incoming tide??  And her mouth is drawn up into a bit of a pout.  In the final piece, she looks sad and submissive.  In the under-piece she&#039;s a bit more defiant.

Not an artist or art critic - just things I noticed.  

DNC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;feel&#8221; of the piece changes from the under-piece to the finished piece.  In the finished piece, she&#8217;s looking demurly downward and her mouth is more relaxed.  In the under-piece, she&#8217;s looking to the right &#8211; toward her accusers, maybe?? toward the incoming tide??  And her mouth is drawn up into a bit of a pout.  In the final piece, she looks sad and submissive.  In the under-piece she&#8217;s a bit more defiant.</p>
<p>Not an artist or art critic &#8211; just things I noticed.  </p>
<p>DNC</p>
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		By: Rope Guy		</title>
		<link>https://www.bondageblog.com/2008/02/22/the-martyr-of-solway/#comment-11259</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoops, on reading back my response &quot;sounds&quot; kinda hostile.  Complete accident on my part, I&#039;m sorry Cedric.  I really do appreciate your input and perspective on how art is created.

It&#039;s just that I wanted to be clear, I was repeating what the gallery says, not leaping to the Bowdlerization conclusion on my own.  Of course they may indeed be completely full of shit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, on reading back my response &#8220;sounds&#8221; kinda hostile.  Complete accident on my part, I&#8217;m sorry Cedric.  I really do appreciate your input and perspective on how art is created.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that I wanted to be clear, I was repeating what the gallery says, not leaping to the Bowdlerization conclusion on my own.  Of course they may indeed be completely full of shit.</p>
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		By: Rope Guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cedric, it&#039;s not an assumption, at least not on my part. Rather, it&#039;s the assertion of the Walker Gallery where the picture hangs.  I don&#039;t know their reputation in the art world, but usually the art community is very stuffy about this stuff, so I&#039;m assuming they wouldn&#039;t say it unless it was based on scholarship or known history of the piece.  The painting isn&#039;t that old, it&#039;s unlikely the Bowdlerization isn&#039;t documented, if that&#039;s indeed what happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedric, it&#8217;s not an assumption, at least not on my part. Rather, it&#8217;s the assertion of the Walker Gallery where the picture hangs.  I don&#8217;t know their reputation in the art world, but usually the art community is very stuffy about this stuff, so I&#8217;m assuming they wouldn&#8217;t say it unless it was based on scholarship or known history of the piece.  The painting isn&#8217;t that old, it&#8217;s unlikely the Bowdlerization isn&#8217;t documented, if that&#8217;s indeed what happened.</p>
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		By: Cedrictheblack		</title>
		<link>https://www.bondageblog.com/2008/02/22/the-martyr-of-solway/#comment-11255</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 08:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the assumption of victorian tampering might be a touch premature . . .an oil painter works in layers, and starting with a basic form, which appears as a &#039;nude&#039; in the x-ray is a standard practice.  The artist also would have been working with the heavier base coat in setting out the figure, so it&#039;s not surprising that it would show up.  Of course, that could be the artisit&#039;s original sketch on the canvas done to give perspective, etc.  The charcoal would show up better under the x-ray.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the assumption of victorian tampering might be a touch premature . . .an oil painter works in layers, and starting with a basic form, which appears as a &#8216;nude&#8217; in the x-ray is a standard practice.  The artist also would have been working with the heavier base coat in setting out the figure, so it&#8217;s not surprising that it would show up.  Of course, that could be the artisit&#8217;s original sketch on the canvas done to give perspective, etc.  The charcoal would show up better under the x-ray.</p>
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		By: Rope Guy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoopsie!

Fixed now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoopsie!</p>
<p>Fixed now.</p>
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